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This will be a place for Golfview Owners to post comments, questions,
suggestions and opinions about items of interest to the Golfview
community. We'll place your thoughts here in the order in which
they are received. Send those thoughts in an e-mail to the webmaster. (click)
3/5/10
Responses Received:
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I believe more lighting is needed. It appears very dark at times,
especially when it is raining. Dwayne
Lang
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3/2/10
Responses received:
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I do not see the entrance to be a problem and question the night time
driving ability of those that do see it as a problem. In my
opinion the flashing lights currently installed are not a viable
solution.
Notwithstanding the above, if better entry definition is needed for
some of the residents, I would suggest painting the curbs with
reflective paint, including the ends of the Lakewood median curbs at
the opening for Golfview entrance (if Lee County allows). Lynn Hondo
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2/28/10
Responses received:
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Need more lighting, flashers are not enough. Faye Froehlich
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I think that better lighting on the two Golfview signs would help to
throw more light onto the entrance and would help to define the road in
and the road out.
Vince O'Connor
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The two LED lights might warn drivers away from the island as they
negotiate the south entrance to the community; but, in my opinion,
illuminating the entire entrance would be the better option if
assisting drivers is the goal. Jim
(Brice)
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2/27/10
Responses received:
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Would you believe my suggestion regarding the lighting is still the
same. Need more lighting. Will be interesting what others
will have to report!!!!!!
Good luck. Alice (English)
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Street light would be nice. LED a weak response to the probem(?).
Jim (Markusen)
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Absolutely thr poorest lighting I have ever seen. The lights are
O.K. for a private Driveway but into a Developement ,
Unbelievable!!!! Mary Jo Walther
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2/26/10
The Golfview lighting committee has placed a number of flashing
LED lights at the main entrance to assist drivers who have a problem
turning in when coming from the south. When you have the
opportunity, test it out and tell your friends and neighbors to also do
so.
Let me know whether you think :
A. There is no problem
B. The LED's are adequate
C. More lighting is needed.
E-mail me your thoughts.
Thanks,
Tom Duffey (tduffey@yahoo.com)
3/27/09
At yesterday's BoG meeting, the members of the board voted to
end our management contract with First Choice Community
Management. Your thoughts on this matter are welcomed on the
forum. Meanwhile, we are pulling down our link to the management
section of this web page.
3/27/09
We had forgotten about this issue, but were reminded of it when we came
here to update the Owner's Forum. The condition of the dumpster
area near the golf maintenance building was improved tremendously back
in September. Here is a pic from the News-Flash for
9/28/08. Yeah!!! Way to Go Fencing Committee!!

4/28/08
I'd like to offer my two cents worth regarding the fence
committee,
too. I hope that the committee will consider placement of a fence
that will act as a screen around the dumpsters at the Golf Maintenance
building. Besides adding some security at the dumpsters, it would
reduce the visual assault that we face on a daily basis as we pass this
area.

Vince O'Connor (Westchester)
4/24/08
Re: Fence Committee
My view of this subject :
Last week the fence committee met at the club house. Low and behold it
was a grand affair with not only the committee being there but the club
house was standing room only. Well, correctly so the committee Chairman
told the group assembled, that this was a committee meeting and
therefore no questions or comments from this large body of people will
be taken or answered by the committee. My take on this is I think the
chairman should have rescheduled this committee meeting and in the
benefit for the greater good, should have taken suggestions from the
floor because of the huge turnout. It seems to me the people of
Golfview find this subject to be very important to the community by the
large attendance for a committee meeting. I heard the words from the
committee ."There are some things that do not need a general vote and
some that do." My take is that if someone is reaching in to my wallet I
would want a say in the matter.
It must be that I needed something to do this afternoon, so I
wrote a letter to be read on the owners forum, or that I also feel much
research should be done on the fences and gates project. Yes, I heard
some reasons the #1 reason was to keep cars and bikes the motor cycle
type off the course.One suggestion was made ,but as we were not allowed
to address the committee , this suggestion was made not as an official
comment but a comments over heard was. #1 Why not pay a security guard
to ride around at night? Another comment was made #2 why not install
three gates by each entrance? Leave them open during day time hours,
and at night close them? I for one am not worried about a stray dog or
two. Is the dog problem worth a proposal to fence in the entire
property of Golfview and the expense? Are there not dog wardens
employed by lee County to address this problem. I would not want
Golfview to look like a prison yard, it is beautiful the way it is.
--Ray Phair
(St. Andrews)
4/11/08
Here's a safety concern: I was rollerblading around the
circle last week and came across a potential tripping hazard.
It's across from Muirfield. I placed the sandal in the picture to
give you an idea of the bump at that point in the sidewalk. So,
if you're walking or running, please watch your step.
---Vince O'Connor

4/5/08
On behalf of the Exterior Paint Committee, I want to thank Tom,
Elaine, and Joyce for their input with regard to the exterior
appearance here at Golfview. One of our strongest points at
Golfview is our commitment to upkeep and maintenance, as evidenced by
our strong reserves position and our schedule for regular painting of
the exteriors.
It seems, though, that someone has mistated the intent of the Exterior
Paint Committee. I have heard NOTHING of PASTELS being
recommended for our community. Indeed, the committee is close to
making recommendations for the next round of paintings, that would give
buildings a choice of colors from a well balanced palette, and a
selection of color schemes which would feature contrasting hues to
emphasize some of our buildings' strong features.
---Vince O'Connor
Chair, Exterior Paint Committee
4/5/08
Here is a note from Elaine Crawford. She would like it
posted on our web site. --Tom Duffey
In March, '08 a first-tome
visitor to Glen Abbey, Joyce Eulner of Danville, KY, remarked that the
Golfview buildings all looked so Fresh and Newly Painted, and that
Golfview-in its soft blue-grey hue was Elegant and Serene.
When she was told that there
was some talk of changing the color to pastels, she was surprised and
wondered why we would want to introduce (effect) a faddish commercial
Disneyland look?
(Note; Joyce stopped here shortly after her return from a
3-week history and architectural tour of India.. Appreciated her
positive comments- thought we'd share them. Elaine Crawford.
1/21/08
12/17/07
Regarding Mr. Phair's question/comment about property taxes, I
have the following information to share. [See 9/2/07 posting
below.]
Recently, when we received our billing statement for property taxes, we
too noticed the escalation in value that our taxes were being based
upon. We called the number on the statement as did another owner, with
whom we are friends. According to the person in the office with which
we spoke, the recent hike in property taxes is based on the last
recorded closed sale in Golfview at the time the assessments were
prepared. That amount was $189,900. Again, according to this person,
this year's taxes are determined by values of properties sold and
recorded in the past year (2006?), not what the current market pricing
is.
It begs the question then,........will we get a tax reduction if the
properties are sold and recorded at a lower price this year or next,
will our taxes be reduced? Hmmmmmm. We'll see.
Deb Johnson
Pebble Beach
11/13/07
This evening, around 5:00, I was on my way out of the Sawgrass
entrance with Drifter, our 12 pound dog. I was still in the
driveway when I saw a shirtless young man across the street with a
large dog on a leash.
I told him that I'd be more than willing to walk with him to an
entrance. He started to run and yelled back "You'd better watch
yourself lady before my dog eats your dog."
I felt threatened enough to come back and send my husband out to see if
he could find this kid. The kid was gone, but I was shaken enough
that I stayed indoors and sent Kevin out to walk the dog.
Yes, I understand that I could have avoided this altercation BY
IGNORING the kid and allowing him to trespass! That is NOT
a solution.
Now can we begin discussions about securing OUR property against any
and all 'unwanted visitors'? What has to happen before we
do? Must someone be physically attacked? Must someone's dog
be attacked?
Patty Bigelow
Sawgrass #302
11/9/07
I abhor the idea of gating or securing ourselves in, but I fear
it has become a necessary evil. Yes, it does make us appear to be
unfriendly, but the alternative is to set ourselves up for unwanted
'visitors'.
Since the Sonic drive-in was built, I have seen increasing numbers of
teenagers 'cutting through' our property toward the Popham
entrance. The numbers of trespassers increases almost daily,
whether it be walkers, bikers and/or walkers with dogs. Whenever
I see someone I think may be trespassing, I do speak up, but what can I
do about it? The kids on bikes just laugh and ride away.
Along with the trespassers comes their litter. The overflowing
junk at the dumpster does not all belong to Golfview residents. I
have watched people drive up, dump, then drive back out. When I
walk the circle, I do my best to pick up trash and it is not hard to
fill a plastic grocery bag with soda and beer cans, cigarette packages
and food and drink containers. These don't come from Golfview
residents. We've never had this problem before.
I should mention, too, that I just don't feel as safe as I have in
years past. We are totally surrounded by developements now, yet
we have left ourselves wide open to anyone who chooses to pass
through. I have a friend, who is a dog owner, living in another
building and she told me that she refuses to walk her dog at night
because she's afraid to go out. I'm beginning to feel the same
way. Over the summer, we called the police twice because we heard
groups of kids running through the golf course late at night.
If we were to take a poll, during season, of every resident, I would
venture to guess that upwards of 50% would say they don't feel as safe
as they did just a couple of years ago. It is definitely time to
take measures to protect ourselves, whatever the cost may be.
Patty Bigelow
Sawgrass #302
11/6/07

Since a picture is worth a thousand words, I'll keep this
short. I think we need to find a way to "screen off" the
unsightly dumper area at the golf course maintenance grounds. We
also need to continue our efforts to educate owners, renters, and
contractors about what kinds of trash are appropriate for this method
of disposal. The picture you see above is mild in comparison to
what we've been seeing there over the past three months.
Vince O'Connor, Westchester
10/14/07
I believe that we should have electronic security gates at
Popham, and Lakewood Blvd.
In order to make it fair, we will post a petition sheet at each
building so that everyone can have the chance to vote.
I think it is long overdue. I also hope that someday, we can have
the speed bumps changed to the wider ones which would
be kinder to your cars.
Jim and Pauline Cyr
Pebble Beach, 101
9/2/07
I live in St. Andrews. All places are now taxed at 190,000
yet market value is around 169,000. Does anybody have thoughts as
to why the assessment is this high?
Ray Phair
8/31/07
I would vote against a gated community, with or without a
guard. My reason is social. Gated homes and communities
send an “us and them” message. The difference between the look
and feel of The Park and Golfview is striking. We seem more
friendly and home like.
Yes, we are more vulnerable; however, we could be smarter and have
fewer items of value left unsecured in public spaces. Items of
value could be individually secured. As a library manager one
option offered to me was to secure our computers with alarms which set
off an external alarm whenever individual computers were moved. We also
had a slow record video system and we kept 7 tapes, one for each day of
the week. The day’s tape was put in every morning and the
previous day’s was stored. The video recorder had three channels
and was locked in the manager’s office and hardwired to three, high
mounted, cameras. Motion detectors turned on lights inside the
library so any unwanted movement at night was recorded.
There were initial set up costs; however, the running costs were not
expensive. We replaced the tapes every year, the recorder every
five years and we cleaned the heads once a month. We also had signs
which told everyone there was a video operating on the premises so
people would not feel watched without knowing.
Kay Flatten
Larklea
Hardwick Hill
Chepstow, UK NP16 5PN
phone: (0)1291 628070
8/17/07
We definitely need to open up the back
at Popham, and put a gate with a automatic opener there.
The initial cost of the gate would have to be paid by the master
association and each owner who wants to use it should purchase their
own opener and if you do not want to use it, you do not have to
purchase one. I think this season we should get a
petition to open up the back at Popham, and if the majority of
the owners want it, then we should hire legal counsel and get it
done.
Clara Callahan
Westchester
7/1/07
Unless we spend an inordinate amount of money, and have
a huge special assessment, we will not have a secure complex. I
am NOT in favor of trying to keep every person, animal, or whatever out
of Golfview...To try to do so would be exasperating and is a no win
situation...Therefore, I'd NOT vote for security gates, security
employees, or anything of that sort. That is not a cost efficient way
to go.
I would, however be in favor of a security system for
the clubhouse where owners would have an entrance mechanism and there
would be a record of who goes in and out which can be reviewed whenever
our management group (or building officer) decides to review , subject
to some sort of rules, and similar to Faye Froehlich's suggestion.
Bert DiDonato
Pebble Beach 309.
6/25/07
The Florida law makers have determined that our property taxes are too high and will be adjusted, to what they were a year ago saving an average of
$1300 per household. It probably won't be that much for us at Golfview but perhaps a special assessment for the installation of 3 key-pad security gates at the entrances would not feel like such a burden if we thought of it as an offset for 1 year. Has the cost of those gates been determined in the
past? This would also give us access to the back gate rather than having to have it chained off. I am not opposed to a gated community at all.
Karen Farah
Pinehurst 305
6/13/07
I
was a Police Officer, I'm currently a Security Guard and I'm sorry to
have to say this but a Gated Community is probably becoming a reality.
I believe with all of the new Communities around now, unless we Batton
down the Hatches ourselves, we are an easy target. Also, as it may be
great making extra money for the Golf Course opening it up to the
public, But I think its a big mistake. When we open up the golf course
to the public, they come in and Case the place. They can see how easy
it is to hit us all up for something, and they laugh on the way out. If
were going to open it to the public then I hope we have a really good
list of all that are attending as they should be suspect after
something happens. We don't necessarily need a Guard but the gates
should be seriously considered. Also, Going out of Popham onto Winkler
that area is open to people walking in. And I'm seeing alot more kids
and teens coming thru. That area needs to be more than just chained up.
Dennis Drossos
Pebble Beach AKA: Dave'Elvis'Eastwood
6/10/07
I don't' believe a gated community is the way to go. Many of the
residents are against special assessments, which is the
way it would probably be paid for.
Perhaps a key pad entry could be installed on the entry doors
to the clubhouse, this would identify the people entering the building
after hours, an Alarm could be installed that would alert
residents that something was amiss, the parking area at Augusta
and the Clubhouse could have better lighting.
As for the TV being stolen, many may not be aware that there
were very bad storms in the area and residents had their shutters down,
and were not going out of doors. In my opinion this presented a
very good opportunity for the thieves. The police were reported to have
said to one of the staff that a couple of other communities had
their clubhouses broken into and items stolen.
Faye Froehlich
St. Andrews
6/6/07
Slowly but surely it seems like our
“paradise” is on the way to becoming a paradise lost.
I think we are long overdue for an electronic security gate. Something that is capable of keeping out
unauthorized vehicles as well as pedestrians and cyclists.
Doug Weidler
Muirfield 104
6/4/07
Also, it was probally a mistake to install a new TV at the end of the season.
I know it's an old subject but maybe we should reconsider having the community gated.
We could do something similar to the Park.
Michael Sorrentino
Sawgrass, PH3
5/28/07
I agree with Vince. Our community has become a magnet for
everyone's trash, dog droppings, jogging path, walking path,
playing golf without paying, etc., not to mention the theft
of the TV. We should all feel violated, whether we wanted
the TV or not. This was something that belonged to all of
us and is no different than someone breaking into you own condo and
stealing something. Steps need to be taken to assure us
that something like this won't happen again in the future.
What are those steps? I feel those who have suggestions,
write them in this blog, or send an email or letter to the board.
Ed DeCrosta
Inverness
5/20/07
The recent theft of Golfview's new HDTV from the clubhouse reflects the
lax security that we have here, throughout the Golfview community and
especially the clubhouse area. I will be very interested to see
what steps will be taken to reduce the liklihood of similar and perhaps
more costly thefts and/or vandalism in the wake of this sad event.
Vince O'Connor